German Army. Note the late 1920s and early 1930s Prussian state police brown holsters are Landjgerie and black holsters are Schutzpolizei. The wooden cased German pistol cleaning kits were, apparently, not made exclusively for the P.08 Luger as a 1946 German police instruction manual titled: Die Pistolen der Polizie, dated Dresden 1946 specifically lists several pistols, including the P.08, although other pistols listed are mostly 7.65 mm caliber, all used by the German Police after WW2. A round buckle for Officers ranks and a box buckle for NCOs ranks utilizing the Freistaat Preuen eagle and are believed to have been introduced in 1921 and were utilized until 1936. administrative district, Enumeration of centuria, or factory numbers, or property numbers, Berlin 9mm; 95% blue, 90% straw, very good bore, near mint grips, 4'' barrel, The metal finish is very good, but it has slight muzzle wear on the left side of the barrel. Founded in 1999. Since these cut back LP08 holsters, at least in the Weimar era, had no provision for a spare magazine, the police officer carries a twin magazine pouch on his belt. German Police Unit Marks, 1920-1937. The German state depended on the stabilizing If it is made after 1918it is a reproduction. There are other, more obscure WW1 or Weimar era police organization affiliated belt buckles with unique design emblems. ad[3]='http://www.germandaggers.com/banners/Marna.jpg'; 435 Municipal Police Berlin unit 13 Pistol s/n 9140e. Article modified: Sunday, 7 July 2019. 19-130 text caption picturing a cut-back LP.08 holster: that the converted LP.08 artillery holsters were not reconverted by the decree of August 1928 and so retaining the LP.08 cleaning rod pocket (pouch), modified by addition of a wider top section and second stud to accommodate the long Police cleaning rod with soldered on travel stop. Thus, unit marks give one some history about the items on which empire and the Prussian constitution have already seen some important additions: further laws are expected in the near future. The is a 9mm, all matching police luger. Mge auch die zweite Uuslage jedem Polizeibeamten weiterhin ein gutter Fhrer auf dem schwierigen Gebiete des polizeilichen Missens sein. WaA107 Schnellpressenfabrik Heidelberg 1939 a.k.a. Remnants of the original artillery holster body up-strap attachment are visible; the cover flap keeper strap and the brass stud were removed and the hole was plugged in the cover flap and a belt buckle/strap closure, as stated above was added. wooden box sliding cover lid, which For more info on 1926 Forest Police manual, click, For more detailed information on the 1930s Aux Police manual, click, For more information on the 1937 Vorschrift manual, click. Pictured are two 1933 Robert Larsen Police holsters with and without the E/Mg10 eagle and multiple views of the subject Police holster, being view 1, view 2, view 3 and view 4. Pictured are multiple views of the four brass studs and their dimensions used with the subject holster. institute for technology and transport. S.Al.II 1. Based on the ratio proportion of the three rounds next to the muzzle protector, clearly indicates that the pictured muzzle protector is the smaller or shorter length spring-loaded variation 1 example and not the variation 2 longer length, not spring-loaded ERMA made muzzle protector. This is a standard 1934 Model gun designated by collectors as the '39 Mauser Police Banner that was ordered from Mauser for the Police use. WWI). Need Help?service@guns.comCall (866)582-4867, PO Box 1131 13800 Nicollet Blvd Burnsville, MN 55337 2023Guns.com. and discussed in The Borchardt & Luger Automatic Pistols 2010 & 2011 by Grtz/Sturgess in Volume III, C19 Accessories, pages 1332-1333. links[9]='http://www.cashicollection.com'; 30. Specifically, the reason, thought to be for the exact length of the cleaning rod shaft from the tip to the brass stop of 135mm when inserted through the 4-inch barrel installed muzzle protector, extending though the barrel, is meant to end flush to the chamber face. view 2 and Possibly post-WW2 East Germany DDR Police holster with an under-the-cover flap, ink stamped maker in three lines: Koffer- u. Lederwarghnfabrik ZeitzS.L.V.SaaleZeitz or Holster and Leather Goods Factory ZeitzS.L.V.SaaleZeitz. Luger DWM 1906 Navy, 9mm, 2nd issue. Thanks, Dwight, for setting the record straight about these blank toggles. regulations issued in 1922, and are shown in the following table. period and evaded restrictions placed on them. This is notwithstanding the fact that there were obviously less Weimar Era Police officers than NCO Police personnel. issued to a unit; e.g., the 351st P08 pistol issued to the Schutzpolizei If the width of the sight blade sliding base is too wide, it will bind in the muzzle protector collar slot. or Leder Zuweisungs Amt (Leather Allocation Office) over a Prussian Eagle over J. Berlin. It is, therefore, not necessary in some cases, as the above 1915 P. Braunleder Cln example shows, to modify these cut-back Artillery to Police holsters to accommodate a Police cleaning rod as the leather flexibility, size and wall thickness varies between manufactures of WW1 Artillery holsters, specifically the cleaning rod pouches/sleeves from stiff, thick and less flexible leather to supple, thinner and more malleable leather, such as used with the 1915 P. Braunleder Cln example. [2], The earliest dated new manufacture, second pattern regulation police holster is 1929. view 2 and Pictured is a 1943 dated SCHAMBACH & Co. -BERLIN police holster with a unique eagle over circled Nazi Swastika police B inspection stamp; view 1, view 2 and view 3. invaluable source of information about the often obscure markings found on Choose whether you want the sealed, opened box, or the marking stamp. This is an apolitical forum for discussions on the Axis nations and related topics hosted by the Axis History Factbook in cooperation with Christian Ankerstjernes Panzerworld and Christoph Awender's WW2 day by day. Five Complete Chapters covered by the book include: Chapt. Faint illegible ink stamp inside the flap (Zeitz?). Otherwise, the magazine has no proof stamps or markings besides the serial number. Kommando der B. Landespolizei=Command of the B. This example has all matching serial numbers. stamping, there is enough room to the left of the defined and enhanced rectangular cartouche type enclosed S. H.133. It is curious that the Hannover Police markings, S. Hn. stamping for another letter or number, but since the upper portion of the left side rectangle enclosure line is partially obscured by the steel washer, resulting in a light stamping, missing a possible letter or number, which is a result of stamping too close to the underside washer, securing the cover flap steel stud. It is not very important if the delivery of these pistols took place just before the 1st of January 1930, or just after (invoiced by Mauser).". Checkered walnut grips are not numbered. It didn't really have to exactly comply or match others issued to a military unit preparing for battle. HIPO as well as Gestapo had their informers. Caliber 7.65mm - 4.75" barrel. A community dedicated to Lugers, Central Powers, Axis, Allied and related WW-I and WW-II pistols by their scholars, collectors, owners and enthusiasts. Die moisten sind veraltet: andererseits sind in neuerer Zeit so viele Vorschriften hinzugetommem, gass es fr den Unfnger schwer ift, das Richtige herauszufinden. Vorfchrift fr die Waffen= und Schieausbildung der Ordnnungspistolen. Edward Tinker - Co-Author of Police Lugers & Simson Lugers - Veteran Bring Backs Vol 1-4. yes sir it the sear and magazine safety installed. One of just 1,000 made, it includes Cyrillic safety markings and crossed Mosin Nagant rifle engravings (Photos: RIA). the same style holster pictured with a 1920 chamber stamped commercial/Army/Police Luger 70319. is an identical holster in the collection, 1908/13 commercial/military/police, no chamber date Luger, serial number 69859. separate view of 69859 serialized in the hidden commercial style. Rock Island Auctions has over 100 Lugers at their upcoming Premier Auction in May including carbines and artillery models and rare pistols meant for Persian, American, and Russian markets. The subject holster is the third such holster identified. 19-130. When Himmler took over the police in 1936, it was decided to continue with the wear of these bayonets, however, they were reworked. German military and police units, one can sometimes derive some This statement appears to be somewhat contradicted, where earlier on page 1262 Fig. letters and numbers, and the information presented here addresses just Schutzpolizei (municipal police), Police Prussian Police (Schutzpolizei) by directive 5 April 1922. Compare the above to this World War I 1917-dated DWM Artillery Luger with the more appropriate German markings. Ulle these re-regulations have been scrutinized when processing the second application and have made extensive changes necessary in some sections. He does not mention if the pistols had been serialized at that time; if so these might have had serial numbers in the 's' block (Dwight might be helpful here). 355. ad[2]='http://www.germandaggers.com/banners/JRBMbanner.jpg'; Thanks for the help. back-side attached single, horizontal leather stock block strip and removing the center block. Thread Tools: Display Modes The author, using the word reportedly, twice in the caption, suggests or implies that he is skeptical or not convinced that the ERMA pictured muzzle protector was used as described. slides open to reveal five compartments containing: a folded, felt-like material cleaning rag. As a result, the young police officers are faced with new tasks, which prove to be all the more difficult since the new police not only ward off the risks of political and economic struggles, but above all are supposed to be brought back to their actual previous activities. Pictured for comparison are examples 1 and 2. is a disassembled view of the subject aftermarket P08 marked and police stick wing acceptance stamped, variation. Made in Germany and completely lead free. An inspection of other pre-WW1 Artillery holster/stocks in the collection shows yet another shape/style and size of cleaning rod pouch/sleeve affixed brass stud. Spain controlled two small mountainous sections of Northern Morocco that were separated by a bay. Nevertheless, cut-back artillery Luger holsters are inexplicably associated with the new police cleaning rods and appears self-evident that possibly, some of the new design police cleaning rods with brass stops were carried in the attached cleaning rod pouches of the converted LP.08 artillery to police holsters, and they also could be found in police stations. Also, the same holster is pictured with a 1908/13 five-digit s/n commercial-military-police Luger. Buy Very Rare 1941 BYF41 Luger Army- Police P08 Mauser German Pistol 9mm P38: GunBroker is the largest seller of Curios & Relics Collectible Firearms All: 966966512 were issued to. an order of the Prussian Ministry of the Interior dated April 15, 1919, to Luger Identification Guide - Rework and non-DWM Lugers (1915-1945) This is one of a series of identification guides for small arms. The fourth is a very early 3-digit, circa 1930 production DWM/Mauser commercial/Police Luger serial number 873V. centered in the federal states of Prussia, Bavaria, Baden, Wuerttemberg, It is not known if the J. Walter, page 149 pictured muzzle protector is police acceptance marked, although he does specifically state that the pictured, variation 1 muzzle protector was used in conjunction with the police cleaning rod. This allows the cleaning of the barrel and receiver chamber without any damage to the barrel muzzle face or damaging contact to the breechblock face. A 108 is found in the upper right backside corner, what could be considered a Police serial marking? Regarding the necessity to modify a cut-back Artillery to Police holster cleaning rod pouch/sleeve to accommodate a Police cleaning rod is questioned, as the 1915 P. Braunleder Cln cut-back Artillery to Police holster, as stated earlier, was acquired with a Police steel shaft cleaning rod with brass stopper, fully inserted in the original, unmodified cleaning rod pouch/sleeve, albeit a cover flap modified by adding a section of leather, allowing the cover flap to completely close over the seven ring wooden barrel Police cleaning rod handle. For my database of police markings, could you tell me the serial number of this pistol and whether or not it has sear and/or mag safeties? The new Freistaat Preuen style eagle was adopted as the emblem of the Preuen Schutzpolizei, (Prussian Protection Police) and the Preuen Kommunalpolizei, (Prussian Local/Municipal Police) and was utilized on their belt buckles. The added cover flap leather keeper strip is correctly attached with single line stitching. But when Nazi party came to power, and started preparation. Without delay, lets get into the coolest of the bunch: DWM Model 1900 7.65mm Ejercito Mexicano marked commercial pistol made in hopes of gaining contracts with the Mexican military. Pictured is a brown leather 1929 dated Robert Larsen Berlin police holster with a Weimar era Sunburst K police inspection stamp and marked L.G. Pictured are multiple views of the four brass studs and their dimensions used with the subject holster. The second being a 1920s chamber stamped commercial P.08 Luger 9754r that is forward gripstrap police marked lengthwise S. M. 1704. or (Prussia) Schutzpolizei Mnster 1074 - Protection Police, Mnster district 7. Per Weimar Lugers by J. The production outlet was 100 pistols a day during that time. The Treaty of Versailles (through the IMKK) restricted the size of Weimar Pictured is a variation 1, spring loaded muzzle protector, which is the only one of two known examples of a muzzle protector used by the Wehrmacht or German army as indicated by the droop-wing eagle over WaA107 army inspection stamp located on the right side flat. indicating issue to the Railway Police in Halle. A first glance through the new evidence that became available to me does not change my opinion as stated above. 1928 (Undated) "Riff" Berlin Mauser Rig (Police) SOLD. Brass stud added to the (cover) flap, additional brass stud added to the cleaning rod pouch. the transcription. Genuine German Luger - Largest Variety of Lugers Offered. Additionally, it seems incongruous that a 1920s post WW1 manufacture brass stud was added or replaced when clearly period correct brass studs were available as attested by the added brass stud, while the apparent goal was to modify the cleaning rod pouch/sleeve and cover flap to accommodate a Police cleaning rod as the lower replaced brass stud would clearly interfere with the insertion of a Police cleaning rod. Waffenfabrik Bern - Bern, Switzerland&break;7. Still, page 174 Figure 28b describes and pictures a P.08 barrel installed ERMA muzzle protector in the text caption that states: This device fits over the muzzle of a Luger and reportedly protects the barrel rifling at the muzzle from the cleaning rod shaft. regulations issued in 1932, and are shown in the following table. Signed & Numbered by both authors. Note the non-standard vertical location of added metal belt buckle and strap/keeper cover flap holster, the subject cut-back artillery LP.08 holster to P.08 holster police marked, the bottom edge of the holster body inner liner, Pictured is a WW1 P08 army holster modified to a Police holster in the 1920s, whereas other identified, non-holster Hannover markings, such as Police P08s. 3 days Left MAUSER C96 RED 9 POLICE, SIMSON REWORK. Additionally, hand written in pencil on the wooden cover is Fehrenbach, which is an area in Germany. Since the first edition was published in February d. Zs. Pictured is a brown leather 1929 dated SCHAMBACH & Co. -BERLIN marked police holster with a Weimer era Sunburst K police inspection stamp; view 1. Several Weimar Era Police pictures that show the box or rectangular shape belt buckles have been identified, yet veryfew examples of a Police Officer or group wearing a FREISTAAT However, no Police bayonets, in general, were issue items, so they would be more "service" items, rather than dress. The two-piece assembly can also be From the Dr. Geoffrey Sturgess collection. jeb111. Muzzle protectors along with police Lugers have been identified with police markings Xd out. Wissen ist Macht, das gilt fr jeden, der im ffentlichen Leben steht und vorwrstsstrebt, besonders aber fr die Polizeibeamten, da ihn sein Beruf tglich und stundlich in engste Berhrung mit der Bevlterung bringt. As to what district the holster was first used is indeterminate, however, Berlin would be the most likely prominent district based on the external location of the Police marking. A rare DWM-made Model 1906 9mm para made for the Tsarist Russia contract. The German purpose about HIPO was clear: To help Gestapo as a Danish helping-police. It is a matter of common courtesy to credit the past authors/collectors that for the last three decades have discussed the 29 DWM Lugers in the s, t and u suffix serial range. links[2]='http://www.johnsonreferencebooks.com'; Pictured is a brown leather example with regulation holster body attached holster body spare magazine pouch with up-strap and cover flap keeper slit and steel stud closure. PREUEN marked eagle, round belt buckle, gold or silver, has been identified. with the following rear cover page translations, of which both Volume I and Volume II front and rear covers are identical, with the rear cover upper paragraph statement: The "Guide" compiled in The corner of the grip was removed to allow the safety to function. 31. police cleaning rods, describes them as: Original Holster is also marked Bahnschutz RBD Halle (S) The breech is stamped 1920 and the center toggle has DWM monogram on it. The metal finish is in very good condition. Additionally, by restricting the insertion of the cleaning rod end, with affixed Reinigungsgdocht[6] or cleaning wick flush to the chamber face, prevents it from becoming detached, which could happen with a longer cleaning rod extending beyond the barrel/receiver chamber face. Sind viele Uenderungen aus dem Gebiete des Staats=, Polizei= und Strafrechts eingetreten. 1920. Additionally, since the subject holster body attached cleaning rod, cut-back from the original, approximately 230 m/m length to 180 m/m length (or 210 m/m total with the added 30 m/m section) leather pouch/sleeve is original to the holster body, as attested by the original stitching. 46 of these got executed in the years 1946-50 by firing squadrons of the Danish police. ad[6]='http://www.germandaggers.com/banners/Cash2.jpg'; The ERMA variation 2 unit also uses a No Longer Available. $175.00 Like New Condition. There's a number "1" above the serial number on the base, which is indicative of police issued magazines, as the police numbered their magazines this way. As always, I'm not responsible for any inaccuracies in the data, just for In actuality, both above statements are correct, as the first statement that a majority of the cut-back LP.08 holsters used by the police are without a police cleaning rod is accurate, however, in cannot be denied that some, at least one, in this instance, was modified (unsuccessfully), specifically to carry the police cleaning rod as evidenced the very rare subject example. The holster front is stamped L.Z.A. It cites Normally, as stated above, these cut-back artillery holsters utilized a toe plug, in this case the subject holster is about of an inch longer, allowing the leather smith enough materiel to fold over the toe opening, mostly conforming to the 1929 and later police holsters. Muenchen (Munich procurement office), Wirtschaftsamt ad[5]='http://www.germandaggers.com/banners/wittmann.jpg'; I. German Police Forces during the Weimar Era, [This information is lifted almost verbatim from Weimar and Early Item Information. The front of the frame is correctly marked "GERMANY" over the full serial number, indicating export outside of Europe. Bayern (Bavarian Police Defense Force), Identification of individual units or independent centuria within an regulations issued in 1930, and are shown in the following table. Open Fullscreen Lot 3320: DWM Blank Chamber Police Luger Rig with Prussian Unit Markings Mauser Blank Chamber 1933 Police Sneak Luger Semi-Automatic Pistol Rig with Unit Markings, 1933 Dated Police Holster, and Extra Magazine Auction Date: December 11, 2022 Estimated Price: $ 2,000 - $ 3,000 Price Realized: Details Payment Terms Shipping This interference issue varies from barrel to barrel, curiously, to both police and non-police P.08 9mm Lugers, depending on the width of the sight blade sliding base. The L.Z.A. 4 days Left WW2 ERA GERMAN POLICE LUGER HOLSTER RIG $150 . 1/11/23 - This is an original WW2 era production Luger magazine. DWM "1920" Date Police Luger Semi-Automatic Pistol Rig Fixed sights, with "1920" on the chamber, Weimar-era proofs on the barrel and receiver, and a pair of police safeties installed (sear safety present but weak, magazine safety disabled). Pictured is a brown leather 1935 dated Robert Larsen Berlin police holster with a TP or Technische Polizeischule property stamp and P08 pistol issue number or serial number 7691;view 1, view 2 and view 3. We know now that it was DWM who started the v block. Bavarian Police Defense Force (Polizeiwehr Bayern), installed over the barrel sight block blade assembly as a single unit with the 4. Pictured is a brown leather 1939 dated Kern Klager & Cie Berlin police holster with an eagle over circled Nazi Swastika police inspection stamp; view 1 and view 2. The Publisher. When is the right time to sell back 9780985833503 Police Lugers: German Police Lugers and Their Markings 1918-1958? Weimar era Police cleaning rods are easily identified by their 7-ring wooden barrel type handles vs. the Imperial era artillery LP.08 and navy P.04 with their 6-ring wooden barrel type wooden handles.The use of these new style police cleaning rods, which coincidently are the last design and use of a wooden barrel handle cleaning rod for the P.08, is described by Sturgess in TBLAP, VIII, C19, pp 1331, 1332 as follows: Most were fitted with bell-shaped brass stops, soft soldered on their shafts, to give the correct length, 130 135mm approximately, for cleaning the barrel of the short P.08 when used with the Mndungsschoner (muzzle protector) which was then in police service. On the grip strap there are the markings L.Me.284. German: German Mfg. Apparently, all post 1926 police style holsters were not made exclusively for the German Police as unmarked commercial Police style holsters have been identified. Pictured is an (officers) Upper Silesian "Landespolizei" buckle. (non-P08) Pistols & Holsters. Die Reubearbeitung schlietzt mit dem Monat Mai 1921 ab. It is uncertain how long the holster remained in the pre-1928 first conversion, shortened LP.08 police pattern as the balance of the changes that constitute the second conversion are unique to this holster, starting with the removal of the up-strap, cover flap keeper and brass stud, plugging the cover flap stud anchor hole, and replacing the original artillery up-strap with a non-standard for a police holster, originally black paint/enamel coated metal belt buckle, keeper and strap cover flap closure. Bie der Reubearbeitung des Kap. Sticky: Book Review History Writ in Steel: German Police Markings. 1933-1945: Mauser Lugers. Erfurt Luger Unit Marking. A rare DWM Model 1900 U.S. Army Test Eagle Luger in 7.65mm is up for grabs as well. The Police holster rear is stamped with the P.08 pistol issue number or serial number 1021. Some of the Police guns are reported with DWM toggles; these do not appear in any recognizable pattern. This particular Police bayonet has been described not as Dress bayonet because it has an issue number on both the bayonet and the scabbard and as such its not a dress bayonet, but a duty bayonet and that they wore these on Patrol. Stitching intact. These figure on the Mauser inventory listings of 09/30/1930 and 09/30/1930. OK, now I'm getting confused again! Walsworth Publishing Co., Marceline, MO 64658 USA.]. introduced sometime in the late 1920s, and later in the early 1930s, many being police acceptance marked on the shaft. Other than the most notable features of the cut-back artillery holsters is the toe plug and the cleaning rod sleeve of these former artillery Luger holsters, none are the same, as there are other changes, such as method of carry, where Sturgess in TBLAP suggests, that with the lack of belt loops they were carried over the shoulder, somehow utilizing the rear attached leather stock block, although some examples have been modified to a single loop belt carry by rotating the Thanks to everyone who has added to this excellent and informative thread. . To see other police manual examples, such as full pagination and other details, click here. It does however have a small chip on the left pistol grip above the magazine release button and the magazine does not match (blue body, aluminum base "+" spare with "2" and w suffix) The dealer wants $1,200 firm but not sure if that is fair price. The Fraktur font originated sometime in the 16th century and was then widely used on most documents and written works. Edward Tinker. And when new information comes out, sometimes "old" information is shown to be wrong. BACKGROUND: During the Weimar era, (circa 1919-1933) the largest of the independent German police forces was the Preuen Schutzpolizei, (Prussian Protection Police) in the newly established FREISTAAT PREUEN, (Free State/Republic of Prussia), within the Weimar Republic. Army, Navy, Police. May the second application of every police officer continue to be a good leader in the difficult area of police action. A sear safety has been added. HIPO was organized under - and quite similar to -the Gestapo: Some uniformed to be visible, some civil dressed working in secrecy. VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. 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